Messiah Matters with Rob & Caleb
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In this week’s show, we look at Yeshua’s nature and John 14:28. Also, a look at an article in the most recent issues of the Journal of Biblical Literature by Paula Fredriksen titled, “How Jewish is God? Divine Ethnicity in Paul’s Theology.” What are the implications of the article, and did Fredriksen get it right?
This week we look at an early text (Didascalia Apostolorum) that suggests Yeshua’s Last Supper was on a Tuesday and that His crucifixion was on Friday. Also, we respond to a comment that was left on our Facebook page that takes issue with our last show and the thoughts put forward on 1Cor. 11. Also, we discuss a question that came in on our comment line asking about the Christian view of Yeshua as High Priest.
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On this years Passover Special we invite Dr. Brant Pitre onto the show to discuss his book “Jesus and the Last Supper” and more specifically, his views on the chronology of the Passion. Dr. Pitre has written extensively on what has been termed the “Passover Hypothesis” and reconciles all four Gospel accounts together.
A look at several emails, included: Does modern day paganism inform us about ancient cult practices? What is it that Bede (an 8th century writer) actually says about the name “Easter”? And should the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movement hold to Rabbinic tradition so that we are not all doing our own thing? Finally, should Christians celebrate Passover?
This week Rob takes us through the historical conversation of Isaiah 9:7 and the closed mem. This conversation looks at various manuscripts and texts throughout history. Rob created a PDF for people to follow along, which can be viewed by clicking the link below.
The guys address several questions sent in by listeners including, who is the final authority in dietary issues? Can we actually keep the Torah? Arrogance VS Frustration with the Hebrew Roots movement. The main topic focuses on a new book out by Douglas Petrovich in which he argues certain Egyptian inscriptions actually hold signs of the Hebrew Alphabet.
In this show the guys discuss various topics. Included is a discussion of Hebrew Word Pictures and the false information that is plaguing the Hebrew Roots Movement. Then a look at John 6 and the idea of hard sayings and the disciples of Yeshua being “all in.” Then a look at food offered to idols and 1 Corinthians 8
Its the annual Christmas special in which the guys discuss Christmas to investigate the claims that its pagan. In this special, a debate with Zach Bauer and a Christian apologist is looked at. Also 119 Ministries video “Sun Burned” is discussed, and a debate over the choosing of Dec. 25th as Christ’s Birthday.
The guys discuss their time at the Society of Biblical Literature and the Evangelical Theological Society annual meetings. Also discussed, a Facebook comment accusing Caleb of being “Harsh” on Messianics but weak towards Christians. A short rant about believers and Public Schools, and a questions is answered about the role of “Outdated” commands in the Torah.
Rob takes the week off so Tim Hegg (Caleb’s Father) sits in. Listener questions are discussed and answered. Included, a short look at Trinitarian doctrine in the Tanach, training for leaders, who or what is the Babylon talked about in Revelation 12? And is it wrong to call someone “Father” (Matt23).
The guys invite Tim Hegg on the show to answer some questions that were asked of him. A response video to TorahResource’s teaching on the Hebrew word “Ger” is discussed. A recap of the TorahResource Institute 2016 family camp is given. Izzy Avraham from Holy Language Institute, and his new series on “What did Yeshua Think of the Mishnah?” is looked at.
A video by D. Thomas Lancaster (FFOZ) is looked at in which Lancaster suggests that Mark Kinzer’s book “Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism” is one of the greatest books within the Messianic realm, but then states its conclusion will not work in the Kingdom. He then goes on to propose a new model, which he is calling “Radial Ecclesiology”.
The history of the five points of Calvinism is discussed, and the first of the “TULIP” theologies, i.e. Total Depravity, is discussed.
Four different papers/article on four topics are discussed. The Israel Bible and the websites guidelines for “open discussion” between Jews and Christians is looked at. A paper in the March 2016 JETS on Romans 2:12-15 is looked at. A new documentary by a “Messianic” and his stance on evangelism is looked at. And a recent article by Dr. Eli on Torah for gentiles is looked at.
An online conversation over a video takes center stage. Do orthodox, non believing Jews, believe in the same Messiah we do? Does it really matter if a person believes Yeshua was already here once? Doe does it simply matter if they believe He will come? Wouldn’t this discount the work of Yeshua on the cross?
The guys discuss defining various religions. Then a clip from Dan Juster is played and discussed. But the main topic is centered around a blog post by James Pyles in which he response to an article written by Tim Hegg on Paul and Oral Tora. Tim’s article is called “What Version of the Mishnah did Paul Read?”
Was December 25th originally a pagan holiday? Did the Christians choose this day because it was originally the celebration of Sol Invictus? Or was the pagan cult of Sol celebrating on a different day, and the Christians were the first to choose this day? The guys look at the evidence and disagree on the conclusion.
We discuss our time at the SBL. We respond to a comment on YouTube regarding our show on Hebrew Roots. Our main focus is an article by International Christian Zionist Center titled “As Gentile Believers, How Should We Then Live?” In the article the author touches on many of the standard Scriptures and poses the standard arguments against One Torah theology, while taking what seems to be Divine Invitation Theology approach.
The Messianic and Christian world are buzzing with various ideas about what might happen in September of 2015. Blood moons, Cern, Pope Francis and the beginning of the Shemita year, according to some, signal large events in this month.
Rob has the week off, so Caleb invites his father to sit in and answer questions. Questions cover a number of topics including, Is the Masoretic text reliable? Is the Holy Spirit ever given to unbelievers? God saying he would have given David Saul’s wives, Steve Berkson claims that the Jesus that the church believes in is the Antichrist. What is the difference between being under Law and under Grace?
How should Torah pursuant believers look at dating, courting and betrothal? Then, are the Church Fathers greater than the Talmudic Rabbis? Is some of the Charismatic movement and the practice that goes along with some churches the same as Kabbalistic practice? Then Baptism and circumcision are discussed.
The debate over predestination has been raging for over 1600 years. Most commonly referred to as Arminian VS Calvinism, this debate is still a hot topic in the Messianic and Christian world. The guys look at some of the history of the argument, and also discuss what they believe the Bible teaches on this subject.
We begin by looking something from K.A. Schneider, who asks for money. Then we look at another video lecture from Michael Stepakoff where he asserts that those who hold to One Torah theology are anti-Semitic. Also looked at, Jonathan Cahn and the 7 cows, tithing, is Messianic a “Sect” of Judaism?, Sacred name issues.
We begin by looking at video from Michael Stepakoff where he challenges One Torah theology. Then the conversation moves to Tovia Singer, and outspoken anti-missionary that has made a business of training Jewish people to theologically fight Christians and Messianics. He has also been instrumental in bringing numerous Jewish Christians out of the church and leading them to denying the Messiah.
Some follow up on our last show about generational curses is touch on, then the conversation moves to Bible codes. A popular craze in the late 90’s, many believe there are secret messages within the original Hebrew Bible that give coded prophecy about current events. These messages (according to those who believe) can be found by counting a specific distance between letters, for instance start at point A, count fifty letters and take the fiftieth letter, count fifty more, etc. etc. until you have a word. Are Bible codes real?
A bit of follow up on the Copper Scroll Project is given. A clip on heiroglyphs is presented comically by Rob which highlights how some people view paleo Hebrew. The half time show at the Super Bowl brought a lot of blog posts about the end of the world, but perhaps the most interesting were those that reference the illuminate and the Nephilim, and how many believe secret societies are running things behind the scenes.
The guys quickly discuss the source document known as Q, then they introduce some new intro music that has been used several times since known as “The Hoff Goes Off.” Also discussed, someone has put Rob Vanhoff on a “Wall of Shame” for speaking against lunar Sabbath belief. Finally the discussion shifts to when the question, when is it right to leave a community? What issues should we fight over?
Rob is out of town, so Tim Hegg fills in. Caleb picks his dad’s brain on replacement theology. Is One Torah theology blurring the lines between Jew and Gentile? Would it matter if it was? What about a dispensational theology? Doesn’t that work from a Biblical stand point? Find out on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show.
The guys look at education. Does it really matter if someone has a degree? Should those seeking to be leaders get training? And if so, does school really matter? How important is it to learn the Biblical languages? What tools can the average person use to study the Bible? The guys look at all this and more on this weeks show.
The guys are in San Diego for the Evangelical Theological Society, and Society of Biblical Literature annual meeting. This week they record from their hotel room, and bring Gary Springer and Tim Hegg onto the show to discuss what the conference has been like, and some of the interesting papers they have seen.
The guys talk about Yom Teruah. Some basics and interesting history come up. Then they move to Jonathan Cahn’s new book. Is there any truth to Cahn’s idea of the Shmita year? Does Cahn make good points? Is judgement coming on America? The guys rap up their time by talking about a blog post that just made waves in the Messianic realm.
The guys talk, once again, about One Torah theology. There has been alot said recently about One Torah, many people are saying that such a theology is not Biblically founded. Rob & Caleb take these claims head on, and look to the Word to see what it says. Also, can the Torah be broken up in Civil, Ceremonial and Moral? The guys say no! Find out why on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show!
The guys talk about TR Institute’s family camp, and Caleb’s visit to the Independent Messianic Conference. They also recap the summer conferences they have been at. Then they discuss Matthew 23:5ff, and the words Rabbi, Father and leader. Rob takes us on a journey through good VS bad scholarship and some of the claims that are given on the AENT website, and they also discuss the document known as “Q” in scholarly circles.
The age old debate rages its ugly head again. Were the Apostolic Scriptures (New Testament), and more specifically the synoptic Gospels written in Hebrew or Greek? Or even Aramaic? Isn’t there tons of references by the early church fathers about a Hebrew Matthew, and a Hebrew Gospel written by Matthew? Doesn’t this prove that at least the book of Matthew was written in Hebrew? The guys say not so fast. Find out why Rob and Caleb still believe the Apostolic Scriptures, and even the book of Matthew were written in Greek.
Almost every week the guys talk about their good friend Adam Smith. This week they invite Adam on the show to talk about C. S. Lewis. Adam has been doing some personal study to try and get a better handle on what C. S Lewis believed and what his theology was. Although many people quote Lewis, and are well aware of his stories, many don’t know what his theology looked like. Join Rob, Caleb and Adam explore C. S Lewis’ and his theological beliefs.
The guys welcome Dr. Skip Moen onto the show to clear up some questions about his theology. Several shows ago the we looked at a blog post by Skip that raised some questions about Dr. Moen’s understanding of Sola Scriptura, the virgin birth, but perhaps most importantly, Yeshua’s atoning work on the cross. Listen in as Rob and Caleb talk to Dr. Skip Moen.
The guys discuss John 3. Was Yeshua speaking Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek to “the teacher” of Israel? The answer might surprise you. Then the guys switch directions and talk about the 39 Melachot (sabbath laws) in the Mishnah. Should these laws be followed by believers? Do we have any evidence that Yeshua kept or rejected such laws? These topics and more on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show.
The guys talk about unity within the Messianic movement. Should we strive for unity with those we disagree with theologically? How far off base does a person have to be before we say I can’t fellowship with you? Later in the show the guys talk about the Hebrew Language. Is it a “holy” language? Or did God write His Torah in common human language?
We look at an email that was sent from one of our friends and listeners. This listener leads us to a website where we look at a post by Skip Moen. In this post Moen interacts with a track that was given to him, and responds to its five points. Is Dr. Moen on the right track? Should we challenge the these five major points of Christianity? Is Yeshua’s death on the cross the only way of salvation, or is there another way? Rob and Caleb talk about these issues and more on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show
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