Messiah Matters with Rob & Caleb

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Show #215 – Is God Jewish?

Show #215 - Is God Jewish?

In this week’s show, we look at Yeshua’s nature and John 14:28. Also, a look at an article in the most recent issues of the Journal of Biblical Literature by Paula Fredriksen titled, “How Jewish is God? Divine Ethnicity in Paul’s Theology.” What are the implications of the article, and did Fredriksen get it right?

Show #214 – The Righteous Shall Live by Faith

Show #214 - The Righteous Shall Live by Faith

This show focuses on faith by looking at various aspects of our faith. A quick look at an upcoming book and the suggestion that the Gospel of John is Anti-Jewish. Also, a look at the phrase “The righteous shall live by faith,” as well as a revisit of saving faith before the Messiah came.

Show #213 – Neither Jew Nor Greek

Show #213 - Neither Jew Nor Greek

This week we look at counting the omer and why this is attached to the festival of Passover. We also look at Galatians 3:23-29 and see how this passage is connected to the Omer and the festival of Shavuot.

Show #212 – Didascalia Apostolorum

Show #212 - Didascalia Apostolorum

This week we look at an early text (Didascalia Apostolorum) that suggests Yeshua’s Last Supper was on a Tuesday and that His crucifixion was on Friday. Also, we respond to a comment that was left on our Facebook page that takes issue with our last show and the thoughts put forward on 1Cor. 11. Also, we discuss a question that came in on our comment line asking about the Christian view of Yeshua as High Priest.

Show #211 – Guests & Wine

Show #211 - Guests & Wine

A look at 1Cor. 11 and unbelievers at the Passover table. Also a look at the word “Pascha” (Passover), and finally a discussion about the ceremonial cups at the Last Supper.

Show #210 – Where Does Our Seder Come From?

Show #210 - Where Does Our Seder Come From?

With Passover approaching, we look at some of the traditions in the traditional Passover Seder and discuss their origins. Do they date back to the time of Yeshua, or are there different explanations on how these traditions were formed?

Show #209 – ‘You Are Gods’

Show #209 - 'You Are Gods'

A look at Yeshua’s quotation of Psalm 82. What does John 10:34 really mean? Also, a look at the significance of bread and wine at the Last Supper. Does Yeshua’s emphasis on bread and wine signal a new ritual act?

208 – Aphikomenos

208 - Aphikomenos

A look at the parting of ways between Christianity and Judaism concerning Passover, Easter, and Communion. Do the Gospels portray Yeshua following the traditional Passover Haggadah as found within the Mishnah? And if so, shouldn’t Christians celebrate it that way too?

Show #207 – Is Yeshua God?

Show #207 - Is Yeshua God?

We look at lots of questions that have been sent in, concerning our last show. We will discuss the idea of the “Trinity” in the Tanach, Passages that say God is not a man, and look at why Jesus prays to the Father if Jesus is Himself God.

Show #206 – Messianic Consciousness

Show #206 - Messianic Consciousness

We continue our discussion of the First Century Messianic expectation. This week we shift to looking at Yeshua Himself and what He said. Why did Yeshua tell so many to keep silent about who He was? Why does Yeshua seem to vail who He really his?

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Show #200 - See You Next Time

Show #200 – See You Next Time


This week we look at 1Cor. 11 and head coverings. Also, can we celebrate the Sabbath on any day of the week?

Show #199 - About Messiah

Show #199 – About Messiah


This week we look at the pope’s suggestion to change the liturgical form of the Lord’s Prayer. Also a discussion about the JW view of the Sacred Name, and a look at arguments against what some might call “Traditional Theology.”

Show #198 - Christmas Special 2017

Show #198 – Christmas Special 2017


A look at the Deity of Yeshua. Is Yeshua really YHVH? Then we turn to Christmas and some explanations Christians give on why they think its fine to celebrate.

Show #197 - The Sacred Name: Is There New Evidence?

Show #197 – The Sacred Name: Is There New Evidence?


Nehemia Gordon has made some fantastic claims recently about the sacred name and what he claims is new evidence of the pronunciation. Are these claims true?

Show #196 - Boston Recap

Show #196 – Boston Recap


This week we discuss our time in Boston at the Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature.

Show #195 - Movie Review: Calvinist

Show #195 – Movie Review: Calvinist


This week we look at the new movie by Les Lanphere titled “Calvinist”. We will discuss some the good and also where we think this film may have fallen short. Also, a comment on our last show will be discussed.

Show #194 - Justification, Does it Matter?

Show #194 – Justification, Does it Matter?


A discussion about the Protestant view of the sacraments and the idea that the Bible should be added to the list. Also, a conversation on an article written that suggests the reformation failed, and that Protestants and Catholics should reunite. What are the implications of this teaching?

Show #193 - Reformation Special: Indulgences

Show #193 – Reformation Special: Indulgences


It’s the 500th anniversary of the Reformation. Luther’s act of nailing the 95 theses to the door at Wittenberg is often seen as a push against Papal authority or salvation by works, but these issues would stem out of Luther’s fight against the doctrine of indulgences.

Show #192 - At What Point…?

Show #192 – At What Point…?


At what point do we decide to stop engaging in discussions about things like Flat Earth, or Paleo Hebrew Word Pictures? Should we continue to discuss these things? Or are they worthless conversations?

Show #191 - Isn't it "Aaronic"?

Show #191 – Isn’t it “Aaronic”?


The Aaronic benediction is discussed, also a look at what a Sukkah has to be made of and a discussion about theology.

Show #190 - Written in What?

Show #190 – Written in What?


A look at an article that attempts to prove Aramaic primacy. But there is much more in this article than just a debate on language.

Show #189 - Contemporary Christian Music

Show #189 – Contemporary Christian Music


The guys look at Contemporary Christian Music (CCM) to see if we should really be using these songs for worship. Also, what is Azazel in Lev.16:8?

Show #188 - Is Rosh HaShanah Pagan?

Show #188 – Is Rosh HaShanah Pagan?


The guys look at claims that Rosh HaShanah comes from the Pagan New Year.

Show #187 - Abortion and the Bible

Show #187 – Abortion and the Bible


We look at the Messianic Seal of Jerusalem. We then turn to Exodus 21:22-25 and discuss the Hebrew to understand if this passage really speaks about unborn children.

Show #186 - Trouble in Nashville

Show #186 – Trouble in Nashville


The guys recap the 2017 TorahResource Institute Family Camp. Then a look at imputed righteousness, and finally a brief look at the Nashville Statement.

Show #185 - Why Did Yeshua Die on the Cross?

Show #185 – Why Did Yeshua Die on the Cross?


A look at another video about the recent solar eclipse that happened on August 21st, 2017. Also, why did Yeshua have to be crucified? An interesting position is discussed.

Show #184 - The End of the World… Again

Show #184 – The End of the World… Again


A quick look at the claims by many that the solar eclipse on Aug. 21st 2017 will enter in the tribulation. The Main topic looks at two videos on human sacrifice, one from Zach Bauer from New2Torah and a response video from SpiritualBabies.

Show #183 - Live From Jerusalem

Show #183 – Live From Jerusalem


Rob is in Jerusalem. We discuss his paper that was given at a conference that looked at the Masorah of the Hebrew Bible. Also Rob’s travels in the land and some of the great things he has seen.

Show #182 - Amen

Show #182 – Amen


Scandal with manuscripts and Hobby Lobby, national election verses personal election, and is the word “Amen” pagan? All this and more is discussed.

Show #181 - Ears or Body?

Show #181 – Ears or Body?


The guys look at Hebrews 10:5 quote of Psalm 40 and the claim by some that this is a misquote. Some have suggested this means the book of Hebrews should not be in our Bibles.

Show #180 - Who is Israel?

Show #180 – Who is Israel?


The guys look at comments and emails that have come in and various questions posed by listeners. Our main topic looks at who is Israel? Are believing Gentiles part of Israel?

Show #179 - Biblical Industrial Complex

Show #179 – Biblical Industrial Complex


The guys look at some emails that have come in and then turn to the biblical publishing industry and explore the benefits as well as the downsides

Show #178 - Rebbe

Show #178 – Rebbe


The guys look at some great questions that have come in through email, and look at the Hasidic theology of the Rebbe.

Show #177 - Repentance

Show #177 – Repentance


In this show, the guys continue looking at Paul and how to prepare for discussions with those who believe Paul spoke against Torah. Also, what is repentance?

Show #176 - The Paul Implication

Show #176 – The Paul Implication


This show focuses on Paul and the implications it would bring if Paul actually spoke against the Mosaic law.

Show #175 - Interview with André-Philippe Therrien

Show #175 – Interview with André-Philippe Therrien


This week we bring our friend and TorahResource Institute student André-Philippe Therrien onto the show to discuss the work he is doing on Alexander Hislop’s Two Babylons.

Show #174 - Shavuot Special

Show #174 – Shavuot Special


This year on the Shavuot Special, the guys discuss the reason we count the omer, various ways people count the omer and what is different about the Holy Spirit before and after the event at Pentecost?

Show #173 - Mail Time

Show #173 – Mail Time


The guys open the mail bag and discuss topics such as, the Torah prohibiting certain people into the “assembly”, the reach of the Dead Sea community in first century Judaism, and the Solar Calendar.

Show #172 - Tikkun Olam

Show #172 – Tikkun Olam


We begin by looking at one of our videos from last week, also a new product from FFOZ has been released, and we discuss the theology of Tikkun Olam.

Show #171 - Hillel and Shammai

Show #171 – Hillel and Shammai


A look at the Greek word for “Christ” and the claim that it is a pagan word. Also, a discussion about Luther and the suggestion that he added to the Bible. The main topic looks at the idea that Hillel and Shammai were the prominent schools of religious thought in the first century.

Show #170 - Mark 14:27-28

Show #170 – Mark 14:27-28


A discuss the beginnings of the split between the standard Church view of the resurrection and the “Quartodecimans”. Also, if we keep some tradition, should we keep it all? and finally a look at Mark 14:27-28 and the claim that Yeshua is associating Himself with a false prophet.

Show #169: Passover Special with Dr. Brant Pitre

Show #169: Passover Special with Dr. Brant Pitre


On this years Passover Special we invite Dr. Brant Pitre onto the show to discuss his book “Jesus and the Last Supper” and more specifically, his views on the chronology of the Passion. Dr. Pitre has written extensively on what has been termed the “Passover Hypothesis” and reconciles all four Gospel accounts together.

Show #168 - Mixed Bag

Show #168 – Mixed Bag


A look at several emails, included: Does modern day paganism inform us about ancient cult practices? What is it that Bede (an 8th century writer) actually says about the name “Easter”? And should the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movement hold to Rabbinic tradition so that we are not all doing our own thing? Finally, should Christians celebrate Passover?

Show #167 - Easter + Ishtar = Pagan?

Show #167 – Easter + Ishtar = Pagan?


A video by Zach Bauer is discussed, in which Bauer claims the pagan roots of Easter go back to Babylon. Discussed is the way in which to cite a source, what is a good source, and of course, do we have evidence of Pagan roots for Easter?

Show #166 - Naaman

Show #166 – Naaman


We look at a clip on sacrifice by N.T. Wright, and a clip on enjoying God by John Piper. We also discuss an article by a scholar that is refuting One Torah theology by using Naaman’s story in 2 Kings 5.

Show #165 - Are You Listening?

Show #165 – Are You Listening?


The guys discuss a podcast put out by BDK and Justen Faull, two evangelicals that are addressing the Hebrew Roots movement. Also, a response to a message we received about Matthew Nolan. Were we out of line in our treatment of his teaching? Also, should we never say the name of a false God?

Show #164 - What's the Goal?

Show #164 – What’s the Goal?


The RC mail bag is opened and emails are discussed. Included, is there power in the name Yeshua? What is the goal of the RCShow? And some loose ends from last weeks show on Isaiah 53.

Show #163 - Isaiah 53

Show #163 – Isaiah 53


A look at the anti-missionary teaching on Isaiah 53. Although many might speak with confidence the evidence from rabbinic sources along with the language used tells a different story.

Show #162 - Orthodox View of Messianic

Show #162 – Orthodox View of Messianic


A look at “Lesser” “Greater” in the Kingdom of Matthew 5, a short look at the “Rabbinic” view of the Norther Kingdom, and a breakdown of a session given by Tovia Singer in Manila Philippines on the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movement.

Show #161 - Yeshua on Trial… Again

Show #161 – Yeshua on Trial… Again


A look at a proposal by an orthodox Jew to retry Yeshua. Also a rap up of last weeks topic on the closed mem in Isaiah 9:7, and a quick look at several passage that speak to the chronology of the Last Supper.

Show #160 - Isaiah 9:7

Show #160 – Isaiah 9:7


This week Rob takes us through the historical conversation of Isaiah 9:7 and the closed mem. This conversation looks at various manuscripts and texts throughout history. Rob created a PDF for people to follow along, which can be viewed by clicking the link below.

Show #159 - Jews and Jesus

Show #159 – Jews and Jesus


The guys look at an article by a rabbi that was posted on titled “Why Jews don’t Believe in Jesus.” The show looks at the arguments put forth within this article and tests them against the Bible.

Show #158 - Straw Man

Show #158 – Straw Man


The guys look at various subjects including the idea of addressing theology instead of personal attack, Strong’s Numbers, and a brief look at hyper preterism.

Show #157 - How We Get There

Show #157 – How We Get There


A short discussion on One Torah Theology, and what we’ve been “freed” from through the Messiah, then a look at the method in which we get to Biblical truth. Does the method matter, or is it only the final theology that matters?

Show #156 - Oldest Written Alphabet?

Show #156 – Oldest Written Alphabet?


The guys address several questions sent in by listeners including, who is the final authority in dietary issues? Can we actually keep the Torah? Arrogance VS Frustration with the Hebrew Roots movement. The main topic focuses on a new book out by Douglas Petrovich in which he argues certain Egyptian inscriptions actually hold signs of the Hebrew Alphabet.

Show #155 - Loose Ends

Show #155 – Loose Ends


In this show the guys discuss various topics. Included is a discussion of Hebrew Word Pictures and the false information that is plaguing the Hebrew Roots Movement. Then a look at John 6 and the idea of hard sayings and the disciples of Yeshua being “all in.” Then a look at food offered to idols and 1 Corinthians 8

Show #154 - The Didache

Show #154 – The Didache


Some emails are discussed, including a question about Salvation VS Eternal Life, and a challenge on our primary sources. Then a discussion on the Didache. What is it? What do we know about it? Should it be a focus of Messianics?

Show #153 - Christmas Special

Show #153 – Christmas Special


Its the annual Christmas special in which the guys discuss Christmas to investigate the claims that its pagan. In this special, a debate with Zach Bauer and a Christian apologist is looked at. Also 119 Ministries video “Sun Burned” is discussed, and a debate over the choosing of Dec. 25th as Christ’s Birthday.

Show #152 - Jasher, Enoch and Berkson

Show #152 – Jasher, Enoch and Berkson


The guys look at the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher to ask why they aren’t in our Bibles. Also, a closer look at teacher Steve Berkson and some of the teachings he has put forward.

Show #151 - Love and Hate

Show #151 – Love and Hate


The guys look at Love and Hate in the Bible to better understand what these terms may mean. Also looked at is the “Lapid” Messianic movement, along with a question about John 6.

Show #150 - ETS/SBL Recap

Show #150 – ETS/SBL Recap


The guys discuss their time at the Society of Biblical Literature and the Evangelical Theological Society annual meetings. Also discussed, a Facebook comment accusing Caleb of being “Harsh” on Messianics but weak towards Christians. A short rant about believers and Public Schools, and a questions is answered about the role of “Outdated” commands in the Torah.

Show #149 - Two Lectures

Show #149 – Two Lectures


The guys are traveling back from the ETS and SBL so the two lectures presented in the Masorah section by Tim Hegg and Rob Vanhoff and the 2016 SBL are featured.

Show #148 - Q&A

Show #148 – Q&A


Rob takes the week off so Tim Hegg (Caleb’s Father) sits in. Listener questions are discussed and answered. Included, a short look at Trinitarian doctrine in the Tanach, training for leaders, who or what is the Babylon talked about in Revelation 12? And is it wrong to call someone “Father” (Matt23).

Show #147 - What's in a Name?

Show #147 – What’s in a Name?


The guys discuss the name Yeshua and some of the newer pronunciations that are starting to be used. They then turn to a discussion on the doctrine of the Trinity.

Show #146 - Synagogue of Satan

Show #146 – Synagogue of Satan


Matthew Nolan and David Perry’s teaching on Melchizedek are looked at. Also a look at Matthew Nolan’s teaching on the Synagogue of Satan taught at Torah to the Tribes.

Show #145 - Mail Bag

Show #145 – Mail Bag


Various topics including Messianics and Mezuza’s, the Shema. The reunification of Israel and Judah. Is the Angel of the Lord a pre-incarnate Yeshua?

Show #144 - Righteous Anger

Show #144 – Righteous Anger


A short show in which a new chat room is tested, as righteous anger is the topic of discussion.

Show #143 - Priest, Sacrifice, Atonement

Show #143 – Priest, Sacrifice, Atonement


An email asking about past statements about sacrifices in the millennial temple is discussed. Also, a brief discussion on Yom Kippur, and a look at the Melchizedek Priesthood.

Show #142 - Critical Review

Show #142 – Critical Review


The guys discuss what it means to be critical and how believers should look critically and with discernment towards teachings and teachers.

Show #141 - Thirsty for Mystery

Show #141 – Thirsty for Mystery


Various topics are touched on, including a look at 119 Ministries Star of David teaching, Jonathan Cahn on “Its Supernatural” with Sid Roth, a look at discernment, and the question of Yom Teruah being called Rosh HaShanah.

Show #140 - Yeshua and the Mishnah

Show #140 – Yeshua and the Mishnah


The guys invite Tim Hegg on the show to answer some questions that were asked of him. A response video to TorahResource’s teaching on the Hebrew word “Ger” is discussed. A recap of the TorahResource Institute 2016 family camp is given. Izzy Avraham from Holy Language Institute, and his new series on “What did Yeshua Think of the Mishnah?” is looked at.

Show #139 - Gentiles in the Body of Messiah (Part 2)

Show #139 – Gentiles in the Body of Messiah (Part 2)


Part 2 continues our look at a video by Tobi Janicki (from FFOZ) that looks at gentiles in the body of the Messiah.

Show #138 - Gentile Believers and Torah - Part 1

Show #138 – Gentile Believers and Torah – Part 1


A lecture given by Toby Janicki is discussed. Janicki talks about the Messianic gentile and the Noachide laws. His suggestion is that these later rabbinic laws were extant in the first century, and shed light on Acts 15.

Show #137 - The Way Documentary

Show #137 – The Way Documentary


The guys discuss various including a look at a new documentary titled “The Way” in which many Hebrew Roots teachers describe their moving to keep Torah.

Show #136 - Q&A

Show #136 – Q&A


Rob has the week off so Caleb invites his father Tim Hegg onto the show to answer questions sent in from listeners. Included is a look at the Hebrew word Ger, a discussion on Revelation 1:10, and Tim’s opinion on a pre-tribulation rapture.

Show #135 - Romans 11:26a

Show #135 – Romans 11:26a


The guys discuss some comments on Two House theology, and then turn to Hosea 1 and a new perspective Rob has. Then a look at Romans 11:26a. Who is Israel, and what is Paul talking about?

Show #134 - Mail Bag

Show #134 – Mail Bag


The new documentary “The Way” that is set to be released in August 2016 is discussed. Also a discussion on the term “Traditional Judaism.” And a discussion on the claim that Shabbat starts at sunrise and ends at sunrise

Show #133 - Ecclesiology

Show #133 – Ecclesiology


A video by D. Thomas Lancaster (FFOZ) is looked at in which Lancaster suggests that Mark Kinzer’s book “Post-Missionary Messianic Judaism” is one of the greatest books within the Messianic realm, but then states its conclusion will not work in the Kingdom. He then goes on to propose a new model, which he is calling “Radial Ecclesiology”.

Show #132 - Interview with Dr. Chris Tilling

Show #132 – Interview with Dr. Chris Tilling


Rob & Caleb welcome Dr. Chris Tilling onto the show to discuss his book Paul’s Divine Christology.

Show #131 - FFOZ and Oral Torah

Show #131 – FFOZ and Oral Torah


A video recently put out by FFOZ, with Jeremiah Michael is looked at. Michael presents a teaching on Oral Torah and its role in the walk of a Messianic Jewish believer.

Show #130 - Limited Atonement

Show #130 – Limited Atonement


The guys look at Limited Atonement and continue the discussion of free will and predestination. Included is a look at Hebrews 2:9 and 2Peter 3:9.

Show #129 - Scholarly Ideology

Show #129 – Scholarly Ideology


Several clips from a senate hearing on Isis are looked at in relation to religious ideology of those who reject mainstream scholarship in all normative religion. This concept is then looked at in regards to the Hebrew Israelite who appeared on Dr. James White’s Alpha & Omega Ministries podcast.

Show #128 - "U" is for Unconditional

Show #128 – “U” is for Unconditional


A look at Unconditional Election, looking at the historical landscape that might have influenced the Rabbinic perspective on this subject as well as a discussion on will and how original sin made our will slaves to sin, and not free to choose.

Show #127 - How Depraved Are We?

Show #127 – How Depraved Are We?


Total Depravity is looked at again, and the topic of “Free” will is discussed.

Show #126 - "T" is for Total

Show #126 – “T” is for Total

The history of the five points of Calvinism is discussed, and the first of the “TULIP” theologies, i.e. Total Depravity, is discussed.

Show #125 - Reformed?

Show #125 – Reformed?


Is there a specific theology that comes with the labels Hebrew Roots and Messianic? If so what is it? The guys begin to explore their own theological views in the hopes of clarifying the theological stance they have when approaching the Scriptures.

Show #124 - Sola Scriptura (Again)

Show #124 – Sola Scriptura (Again)


Rob is taking a week off so Caleb invites Michael Gonzales onto the show to talk about his coming to Torah and then to look at Sola Scriptura in the Messianic movement.

Show #123 - Count Your Omer!

Show #123 – Count Your Omer!


The guys look at some interesting sound bytes from the internet, respond to comments about last weeks show, and discuss the various ways people count the omer.

Show #122 - What is Truth?

Show #122 – What is Truth?


The guys looks at several different endorsements of Itzhak Shapira’s book Return of the Kosher Pig by Christian and Messianic leaders and ask if this is the “Truth” the Gospels speak about. What does it say about leaders who are endorsing theological heresy?

Show #121 - Was the Last Supper a Passover Meal?

Show #121 – Was the Last Supper a Passover Meal?


The guys bring on Tim Hegg for their yearly discussion on the Passover Chronology and if the Last Supper was a Passover Seder.

Show #119 - Various Papers

Show #119 – Various Papers


Four different papers/article on four topics are discussed. The Israel Bible and the websites guidelines for “open discussion” between Jews and Christians is looked at. A paper in the March 2016 JETS on Romans 2:12-15 is looked at. A new documentary by a “Messianic” and his stance on evangelism is looked at. And a recent article by Dr. Eli on Torah for gentiles is looked at.

Show #116 - Heretic

Show #116 – Heretic


We welcome Michael Gonzales, the new member of the TR team on the show. We discuss a new iron age seal found in Jerusalem, can a Jewish person who is not a believer but keeps Torah saved? And what is the definition of a heretic and a heretical doctrine?

Show #115: Two House? One Gospel!

Show #115: Two House? One Gospel!


The guys discuss an article put out by Ken Rank from United2Restore, in which he claims that Jews who keep Torah but don’t believe in Messiah, are still saved because they believe in a Messiah, and even though they don’t realize it, they really believe in Yeshua.

Show #114 - Same Messiah

Show #114 – Same Messiah


An online conversation over a video takes center stage. Do orthodox, non believing Jews, believe in the same Messiah we do? Does it really matter if a person believes Yeshua was already here once? Doe does it simply matter if they believe He will come? Wouldn’t this discount the work of Yeshua on the cross?

Show #113 - Acts 15:10, What is the Yoke?

Show #113 – Acts 15:10, What is the Yoke?


Acts 15:10 is discussed. What is the Yoke? Is it the Torah like most Christian commentators believe? Or is it something else?

Show #112 - Yeshua in the Talmud

Show #112 – Yeshua in the Talmud


Is there negative things written in the Talmud about Yeshua? Or is it talking about a different Yeshua? What do the earliest manuscripts say?

Show #110 - Codex Sinaiticus

Show #110 – Codex Sinaiticus


The history and discovery of Codex Sinaiticus by Constantine Von Tischendorf is discussed. Of most interest, was the story of Tischendorf finding the codex in a kindling heap true, or a lie made up to get the codex out of St. Catherine’s?

Show #109 - Greater Exodus

Show #109 – Greater Exodus


The guys look at a teacher that is being called “The Greater Exodus.” Many within the Messianic movement hold to the Greater Exodus, but non take quite the same view as Monte Judah. Judah’s views are discussed in depth.

Show #108 - Anachronism

Show #108 – Anachronism


The guys discuss defining various religions. Then a clip from Dan Juster is played and discussed. But the main topic is centered around a blog post by James Pyles in which he response to an article written by Tim Hegg on Paul and Oral Tora. Tim’s article is called “What Version of the Mishnah did Paul Read?”

Show #107 - Orthodox Statement on Christianity

Show #107 – Orthodox Statement on Christianity


A document made and signed by over 25 orthodox rabbis has been a huge topic on social media. Is this document a good thing? The guys argue no. It puts Christianity into a Catholic box and suggests the Noachide laws are a gift from God to the nations.

Show #105 - Christmas (Dec. 25th)

Show #105 – Christmas (Dec. 25th)


Was December 25th originally a pagan holiday? Did the Christians choose this day because it was originally the celebration of Sol Invictus? Or was the pagan cult of Sol celebrating on a different day, and the Christians were the first to choose this day? The guys look at the evidence and disagree on the conclusion.

Show #104 - Scholarship

Show #104 – Scholarship


Looking at different works circulating within the Messianic realm. Included are works such as the Cepher Bible, the newly released Hezekiah’s seal and the true location of the temple mount.

Show #103 - Hanukkah

Show #103 – Hanukkah


Is Hanukkah a pagan invention? Should believers reject this holiday as pagan? Some such as Joseph Dumond and OutCry Ministries seem to think so.

Show #102 - Standard Arguments (Acts 15)

Show #102 – Standard Arguments (Acts 15)


We discuss our time at the SBL. We respond to a comment on YouTube regarding our show on Hebrew Roots. Our main focus is an article by International Christian Zionist Center titled “As Gentile Believers, How Should We Then Live?” In the article the author touches on many of the standard Scriptures and poses the standard arguments against One Torah theology, while taking what seems to be Divine Invitation Theology approach.

Show #101 - Food Offered to Idols

Show #101 – Food Offered to Idols


The guys are in Atlanta GA at the Society of Biblical Literature and welcome Tim Hegg and Gary Springer on the show to discuss food offered to idols

Show #100 - Hebrew Roots

Show #100 – Hebrew Roots


This week we talk about Hebrew Roots. Are we part of it? Is it different than Messianic Judaism? Should we reject this title?

Show #099 - Response

Show #099 – Response


The guys discuss a slew of emails and comments that have come in over their last show about Shapira. We also look at a comment by someone on Steve Berkson

Show #098 - The Gospel and Kabbalah

Show #098 – The Gospel and Kabbalah


We continue our discussion from the past two shows in which we look at rabbinic writings. This week we look at the Zohar and some of the later mystical works.

Show #097 - How Much Tradition?

Show #097 – How Much Tradition?


The guys continue the discussion that was started last week on Mishnah and Talmud. Should believers in Yeshua incorporate Jewish tradition into their lives? If so, how much?

Show #096 - Dating Rabbinic Lit

Show #096 – Dating Rabbinic Lit


We begin to look at Itzhak Shapira’s work Return of the Kosher Pig. In this first installment we discuss the dating of various rabbinical works

Show #095 - Movie Review

Show #095 – Movie Review


The guys review two movies that are gaining popularity. Rob looks at “Killing Jesus” and discusses its historical accuracy. Caleb looks at “Patterns of Evidence: The Exodus” and looks at some of the information that is presented in this film.

Show #092 - Mail Bag

Show #092 – Mail Bag


Main topics include, Rosh HaShanah, is it really a new year? Tashlich service, is it pagan? The prayer book, which one should we use? Is the Shema literal or metaphor?

Show #091 - September 2015 (CERN)

Show #091 – September 2015 (CERN)

The Messianic and Christian world are buzzing with various ideas about what might happen in September of 2015. Blood moons, Cern, Pope Francis and the beginning of the Shemita year, according to some, signal large events in this month.

Show #090 - Disagreement Day

Show #090 – Disagreement Day


We once again invite my father Tim Hegg onto the show to hash out some issues we disagree on. Included, the term “rabbi” in the fist century, Yeshua as a Pharisee, Circumcision in the first century, conversion in the first century.

Show #089 - Tim Hegg Q&A

Show #089 – Tim Hegg Q&A


Rob has the week off, so Caleb invites his father to sit in and answer questions. Questions cover a number of topics including, Is the Masoretic text reliable? Is the Holy Spirit ever given to unbelievers? God saying he would have given David Saul’s wives, Steve Berkson claims that the Jesus that the church believes in is the Antichrist. What is the difference between being under Law and under Grace?

Show #088 - Conversion

Show #088 – Conversion


We discuss the Ohio Decalogue stone and keystone found in Ohio. Then w look at a snippet from an FFOZ Messiah journal. The conversation quickly shifts to conversion in the first century. Was there a ritual for such an act? Was it standardized?

Show #087 - Animal Sacrifices

Show #087 – Animal Sacrifices


The guys begin by looks at an email that speaks about last weeks show. Then the topic changes to animal sacrifice. Are they still applicable today? Will we do them in the millennium? Didn’t Yeshua’s death on the cross end all animal sacrifice?

Show #084 - Top 10 Distractions

Show #084 – Top 10 Distractions


We look at some email sent in that touches on our last show. We then move to the top ten distractions (as seen by us) in the Messianic movement.

Show #083 - Food Offered to Idols

Show #083 – Food Offered to Idols


First a Mikvah discovered in Jerusalem is discussed, then Chuck Missler’s teaching on the Aleph Tav is looked at. Then food offered to idols is looked at. Including Halal food, and Kosher food slaughtered according to Kabbalistic ritual

Show #082 - Misc

Show #082 – Misc


This show touches on several topics including a run down of our time at the UMJA conference. Some clips that Rob has found on the internet including a woman talking about Jews lost in a cave. And Annihilation doctrine.

Show #081 - Flat Earth Theory

Show #081 – Flat Earth Theory


Flat earth theory is becoming a more and more popular belief among some believers. What is it? Is there any validity to such claims? Should we embrace it? The guys tackle this topic head on.

Show #080 - Homosexuality

Show #080 – Homosexuality


We begin by looking at a comment made by Lex Myers who believes in perfectionism. We then shift to homosexuality and some of the arguments believers can use with non-believers on this issue.

Show #079 - Dating, Sacrifices and Baptism

Show #079 – Dating, Sacrifices and Baptism


How should Torah pursuant believers look at dating, courting and betrothal? Then, are the Church Fathers greater than the Talmudic Rabbis? Is some of the Charismatic movement and the practice that goes along with some churches the same as Kabbalistic practice? Then Baptism and circumcision are discussed.

Show #078 - Kabbalah

Show #078 – Kabbalah


The guys discuss Kabbala and the Hassidic view of the Tzadik. Where do these beliefs come from? Should we as believers attempt to experience these mystical realms through Kabbalah? Find out what the guys have to say.

Show #077 - Calvinism VS Arminianism

Show #077 – Calvinism VS Arminianism


The debate over predestination has been raging for over 1600 years. Most commonly referred to as Arminian VS Calvinism, this debate is still a hot topic in the Messianic and Christian world. The guys look at some of the history of the argument, and also discuss what they believe the Bible teaches on this subject.

Show #076 - Satan

Show #076 – Satan


The theology of angels, demons and Satan is discussed. Questioning where all our notions of these things come from and if they are truly Biblical.

Show #075 - Speaking in Tongues

Show #075 – Speaking in Tongues


We begin by looking at Jonathan Cahn’s state of the union address. We then discuss Jim Staley’s pleading guilty. Then a blog post by 119 ministries and the deity of Yeshua is touched on. Then the conversation moves to speaking in tongues.

Show #074 - One Torah Theology

Show #074 – One Torah Theology


We look at One Torah theology and some of the main passages that are used to fight such theology.

Show #073 - Mail Bag

Show #073 – Mail Bag


We begin by looking something from K.A. Schneider, who asks for money. Then we look at another video lecture from Michael Stepakoff where he asserts that those who hold to One Torah theology are anti-Semitic. Also looked at, Jonathan Cahn and the 7 cows, tithing, is Messianic a “Sect” of Judaism?, Sacred name issues.

Show #072 - Defending the Faith

Show #072 – Defending the Faith


We begin by looking at video from Michael Stepakoff where he challenges One Torah theology. Then the conversation moves to Tovia Singer, and outspoken anti-missionary that has made a business of training Jewish people to theologically fight Christians and Messianics. He has also been instrumental in bringing numerous Jewish Christians out of the church and leading them to denying the Messiah.

Show #071 - Dating the Exodus

Show #071 – Dating the Exodus


We begin by looking at an a short entry in Messiah Journal #119 (FFOZ) by Boaz Michael on One Torah theology. Then they shift to a short look at Easter. The main topic is the date of the exodus from Egypt.

Show #070 - Passion Chronology

Show #070 – Passion Chronology


The guys invite Tim Hegg on the show to discuss the Passion Chronology. Featured are some clips from New2Torah in which Zach Bauer gives reasons he rejects the idea that Yeshua was celebrating a Passover Seder during the last meal.

Show #069 - Blood Moons

Show #069 – Blood Moons


We begin with a follow up from last show on the location of the temple by playing a clip from Marty Hertz, then we move to the blood moon tetrad that is coming in the fall. Clips from Biltz, Hagee, and Munsey are played, also clips from people debunking such theories are also highlighted.

Show #068 - Location of the Temple

Show #068 – Location of the Temple


Some claim that the temple did not sit atop the traditional location of the temple mount, but rather, was quite a distance off in the city of David, and the real temple mount has been destroyed.

Show #067 - Bible Codes

Show #067 – Bible Codes


Some follow up on our last show about generational curses is touch on, then the conversation moves to Bible codes. A popular craze in the late 90’s, many believe there are secret messages within the original Hebrew Bible that give coded prophecy about current events. These messages (according to those who believe) can be found by counting a specific distance between letters, for instance start at point A, count fifty letters and take the fiftieth letter, count fifty more, etc. etc. until you have a word. Are Bible codes real?

Show #066 - Generational Sin

Show #066 – Generational Sin


Should we be worried that sin our ancestors did will put a curse on us? Does God give disease and hardship to our offspring as a punishment to us?

Show #065 - Aramaic New Testament

Show #065 – Aramaic New Testament


The guys look at YouTube Comments, then read and respond to an email from 119 Ministries. Then the topic of Aramaic Primacy in the Apostolic Scriptures is hit on. Specifically Andrew Gabriel Roth’s work on the “Aramaic English New Testament” is looked at.

Show #064 - Nephilim

Show #064 – Nephilim


The guys discuss different teachings on the Nephalim. Does the Bible talk about Angels coming down and creating offspring on earth? Does it speak of aliens? Many Messianic leaders say yes to at least one of these options, but what do the guys say? Find out on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show.

Show #063 - King James Version Bible

Show #063 – King James Version Bible


The KJV is discussed. its history, and those who believe it is the most accurate translation of the Bible.

Show #062 - Mixed Bag

Show #062 – Mixed Bag


A bit of follow up on the Copper Scroll Project is given. A clip on heiroglyphs is presented comically by Rob which highlights how some people view paleo Hebrew. The half time show at the Super Bowl brought a lot of blog posts about the end of the world, but perhaps the most interesting were those that reference the illuminate and the Nephilim, and how many believe secret societies are running things behind the scenes.

Show #061 - The Copper Scroll Project

Show #061 – The Copper Scroll Project


A new project called The Copper Scroll Project which is led by Jim Barfield has been backed by 119 Ministries. The guys take a look at the new video produced by 119 for the CSP and the major problems that can be seen from first glances.

Show #060 - Will the Real Rob Please Stand Up?

Show #060 – Will the Real Rob Please Stand Up?


A fake profile under the name of Rob Vanhoff is discussed. A couple of comments from Matthew Janzen on the deity of the Messiah are discussed. Then a panel discussion with R.C. Sproul and others, where the participants discuss reform theology and Israel (i.e. replacement theology) is discussed.

Show #058 - Leaving Community

Show #058 – Leaving Community


The guys quickly discuss the source document known as Q, then they introduce some new intro music that has been used several times since known as “The Hoff Goes Off.” Also discussed, someone has put Rob Vanhoff on a “Wall of Shame” for speaking against lunar Sabbath belief. Finally the discussion shifts to when the question, when is it right to leave a community? What issues should we fight over?

Show #057 - Pardes

Show #057 – Pardes


We discuss rabbinic authority and oral tradition. This conversation is leading specifically to Biblical interpretation of the Rabbis. What is Pardes? How does it work? Is it a valid form of Biblical hermeneutics, and should believers use it?

Show #056 - Assimilation

Show #056 – Assimilation


Rob is out of town, so Tim Hegg fills in. Caleb picks his dad’s brain on replacement theology. Is One Torah theology blurring the lines between Jew and Gentile? Would it matter if it was? What about a dispensational theology? Doesn’t that work from a Biblical stand point? Find out on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show.

Show #055 - Christmas Special

Show #055 – Christmas Special


The guys talk about the history behind Christmas. Is Kirk Cameron right? Should we latch onto Christmas? What about Hanukkah? Where did the tradition of giving gifts come from? Did Hanukkah rip off Christmas? Find out in this weeks show!

Show #054 - Junk Scholarship

Show #054 – Junk Scholarship


The guys look at education. Does it really matter if someone has a degree? Should those seeking to be leaders get training? And if so, does school really matter? How important is it to learn the Biblical languages? What tools can the average person use to study the Bible? The guys look at all this and more on this weeks show.

Show #052 - ETS/SBL

Show #052 – ETS/SBL


The guys are in San Diego for the Evangelical Theological Society, and Society of Biblical Literature annual meeting. This week they record from their hotel room, and bring Gary Springer and Tim Hegg onto the show to discuss what the conference has been like, and some of the interesting papers they have seen.

Show #049 - Trinity

Show #049 – Trinity


The guys welcome Tim Hegg, Caleb’s father on the show to talk about the deity of our Messiah Yeshua. Is Yeshua God? What does the Bible say about this theology? Is the “trinity” a Biblical doctrine? Or an invention of the Catholic Church?

Show #048 - (Messianic) "Judaism"

Show #048 – (Messianic) “Judaism”


Is Messianic “Judaism” really a part of Judaism? How do we define Judaism today? Does it matter if we are viewed within the larger realm of Judaism? The guys tackle these questions and more, and address some specific emails and a blog post on this subject.

Show #047 - Anti-Missionaries

Show #047 – Anti-Missionaries


What do we do with people who are leaving the Messianic and Christian faith to go to traditional Judaism? What do we say to the teaching of anti-missionaries like Tovia Singer? Listen as the guys address these issues and more on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show.

Show #046 - Sukkot

Show #046 – Sukkot


The guys take time to reflect on the festival of Sukkot, and talk about what the festival has brought to their minds. They also look at the books they are currently reading, and what they are getting out of them.

Show #045 - Lunar Sabbath

Show #045 – Lunar Sabbath


Rob and Caleb look at this idea of a “lunar Sabbath.” Does this theory hold any weight? What do Scholars say about this theology? What does the Bible say? Should we reckon the Sabbath according to the moon? And most importantly, what did Yeshua do?

Show #043 - Yom Teruah

Show #043 – Yom Teruah

The guys talk about Yom Teruah. Some basics and interesting history come up. Then they move to Jonathan Cahn’s new book. Is there any truth to Cahn’s idea of the Shmita year? Does Cahn make good points? Is judgement coming on America? The guys rap up their time by talking about a blog post that just made waves in the Messianic realm.

Show #042 - One Torah

Show #042 – One Torah


The guys talk, once again, about One Torah theology. There has been alot said recently about One Torah, many people are saying that such a theology is not Biblically founded. Rob & Caleb take these claims head on, and look to the Word to see what it says. Also, can the Torah be broken up in Civil, Ceremonial and Moral? The guys say no! Find out why on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show!

Show #041 - The English Bible

Show #041 – The English Bible


The guys take a week off, and we dig into the RCShow vault to find a history show by Caleb. Caleb looks at the formation of the English Bible, and the formation of the first three Sola’s.

Show #040 - Recap

Show #040 – Recap


The guys talk about TR Institute’s family camp, and Caleb’s visit to the Independent Messianic Conference. They also recap the summer conferences they have been at. Then they discuss Matthew 23:5ff, and the words Rabbi, Father and leader. Rob takes us on a journey through good VS bad scholarship and some of the claims that are given on the AENT website, and they also discuss the document known as “Q” in scholarly circles.

Show #038 - Hebrew or Greek?

Show #038 – Hebrew or Greek?


The age old debate rages its ugly head again. Were the Apostolic Scriptures (New Testament), and more specifically the synoptic Gospels written in Hebrew or Greek? Or even Aramaic? Isn’t there tons of references by the early church fathers about a Hebrew Matthew, and a Hebrew Gospel written by Matthew? Doesn’t this prove that at least the book of Matthew was written in Hebrew? The guys say not so fast. Find out why Rob and Caleb still believe the Apostolic Scriptures, and even the book of Matthew were written in Greek.

Show #037 - C.S. Lewis

Show #037 – C.S. Lewis


Almost every week the guys talk about their good friend Adam Smith. This week they invite Adam on the show to talk about C. S. Lewis. Adam has been doing some personal study to try and get a better handle on what C. S Lewis believed and what his theology was. Although many people quote Lewis, and are well aware of his stories, many don’t know what his theology looked like. Join Rob, Caleb and Adam explore C. S Lewis’ and his theological beliefs.

Show #036 - Interview with Skip Moen

Show #036 – Interview with Skip Moen


The guys welcome Dr. Skip Moen onto the show to clear up some questions about his theology. Several shows ago the we looked at a blog post by Skip that raised some questions about Dr. Moen’s understanding of Sola Scriptura, the virgin birth, but perhaps most importantly, Yeshua’s atoning work on the cross. Listen in as Rob and Caleb talk to Dr. Skip Moen.

Show #035 - John 3

Show #035 – John 3


The guys discuss John 3. Was Yeshua speaking Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek to “the teacher” of Israel? The answer might surprise you. Then the guys switch directions and talk about the 39 Melachot (sabbath laws) in the Mishnah. Should these laws be followed by believers? Do we have any evidence that Yeshua kept or rejected such laws? These topics and more on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show.

Show #034 - Breaking Fellowship

Show #034 – Breaking Fellowship


The guys talk about unity within the Messianic movement. Should we strive for unity with those we disagree with theologically? How far off base does a person have to be before we say I can’t fellowship with you? Later in the show the guys talk about the Hebrew Language. Is it a “holy” language? Or did God write His Torah in common human language?

Show #033 - The Harbinger

Show #033 – The Harbinger


The guys talk about some email they’ve received, and chat about some of the criticism they have received online. In the second half of the show, they look at Jonathan Cahn and his book “The Harbinger”.

Show #032 - Moen

Show #032 – Moen


We look at an email that was sent from one of our friends and listeners. This listener leads us to a website where we look at a post by Skip Moen. In this post Moen interacts with a track that was given to him, and responds to its five points. Is Dr. Moen on the right track? Should we challenge the these five major points of Christianity? Is Yeshua’s death on the cross the only way of salvation, or is there another way? Rob and Caleb talk about these issues and more on this weeks Rob & Caleb Show

Show #031 - Messi Antics

Show #031 – Messi Antics


Some of the sensational and wrong theologies that plague the Messianic Movement today are discussed.

Show #030 - UMJA 2014

Show #030 – UMJA 2014


We discuss the 2014 annual conference of the UMJA.

Show #029 - Amillienialism

Show #029 – Amillienialism


Tim Hegg, Rob Vanhoff, Ariel Berkowitz and Caleb Hegg all sit down to discuss amillenialism.

Show #025 - Interview with Chris Rosebrough

Show #025 – Interview with Chris Rosebrough


We interview Chris Rosebrough on his debate with Jim Staley about the Sabbath.

Show #024 - Jim Staley

Show #024 – Jim Staley


We interview Jim Staley of Passion for Truth over his debate on the Sabbath with Chris Rosebrough

Show #020 - Passion Chronology 2

Show #020 – Passion Chronology 2


We bring Tim Hegg on the show to discuss the passion chronology

Show #019 - Chronology of the Passion

Show #019 – Chronology of the Passion


Our yearly discussion on the chronology of the Passover

Show #013 - Interview with Dr. Martin Abegg

Show #013 – Interview with Dr. Martin Abegg


We interview Dr. Martin Abegg on the Dead Sea Scrolls and 4QMMT. Specifically we talk about the phrase “Works of the Law.”

Show #012 - Dr. Brown

Show #012 – Dr. Brown


We interview Dr. Michael Brown on Paleo Hebrew and the formation of Biblical Hebrew

Show #009 - Hermeneutics

Show #009 – Hermeneutics


Proper hermeneutics are discussed

Show #004 Paleo Hebrew

Show #004 Paleo Hebrew


In this episode we interview Dr. Michael Brown who has his Ph.D in Near Easter Languages. We discuss the claim that Paleo Hebrew carries extra meaning because of Hebrew word pictures.

Show #002

Show #002


We discuss the New Covenant

Show #001

Show #001


We talk about dispensationalism


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